RMB Newsletter Vol 2:1     An AVA vet speaks on the TV     January 2002

Dear Reader,

How was your Christmas? – good I trust.

Down here in Australia we had a scorcher with some devastating bush fires.
Conditions were right with plenty of dry undergrowth, eucalyptus oil, hot
winds and once ignited nothing mankind could do could stop the blazes.

Happily the flames have died down and the smoke has cleared as I prepare
this first RMB Newsletter of 2002. Following on from the previous
newsletter we shall take a look at veterinary utterances in the public
domain – how some veterinarians, health care professionals, defend the
artificial pet food industry. And of course this fits within the general
theme of this newsletter:

i)Stop the harm done by processed food and the proponents of processed
food.
ii)Promote the healthy feeding of pets.
iii)Promote a healthy human economy.
iv)Promote a healthy natural environment.

It’s a bit like fighting bush fires. Whilst it makes sense to fight the
fires and to take all precautions in case bush fires occur; the main
strategy must surely be to prevent folks lighting bush fires in the first
place. If pet food companies and their vets stopped promoting harmful
products then improving pet health, the human economy and natural
environment would be a much easier task.

This edition carries a couple of readers’ responses to the last
newsletter. Your responses are encouraged; we would be delighted to hear
from you.

Until next time,

Wishing you a terrific 2002,

Tom Lonsdale and the Raw Meaty Bones crew

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An Australian Veterinary Association vet speaks on the TV

On 31 October 2001 the Australian national broadcaster Channel 9 went to
air, on the popular A Current Affair program, with a segment on the pet
food industry and based around the recent publication of Raw Meaty Bones:
Promote health.

A researcher from the program had seen a news item about Raw Meaty Bones
and contacted me to enquire further. They recognised the merits of the
story and scheduled reporter Jane Hansen and a camera crew to spend two
days filming. Leah Ryan’s pack of rough collies were shown gambolling and
playing. Pups eagerly searched for the chicken backs on offer for lunch.
Leah told how, when she used to feed commercial foods, she had huge
veterinary bills for her kennel of between ten and twenty pedigree dogs.
She was spending around $1000 per month on vet bills for a variety of
ailments. From the day she started more natural feeding the ill health
seemed to miraculously disappear. When asked what she now spends on vet
bills, Leah responded: ‘Oh, zilch!’

Diana Trickett has been feeding her Burmese cats and two small dogs raw
meaty bones from the beginning. Simba, the 14 year old Burmese, chewed on
a rabbit carcass for the benefit of the cameras. ‘He’s been eating this
way since he was 12 weeks old, when I got him as a kitten’ said Mrs
Trickett. ‘I wouldn’t do it any other way . . . They are happy, they are
contented. It doesn’t cost me a fortune.’

At this point the picture cut to Dr Paul Hanson, President of the New
South Wales division of the Australian Veterinary Association (AVA). Dr
Hanson was filmed in a Sydney veterinary hospital and the sound track goes
thus:

Dr Paul Hanson (AVA representative) – Most GP [general practitioner], day
to day vets, would advise caution in feeding a raw meaty bones diet as a
sole diet.

Jane Hansen (reporter) – Dr Paul Hanson, from the Veterinary
Association . . . Why should cats and dogs eat rice and corn and cereals
and vegetables that you find in these canned foods?

Dr Paul Hanson – A lot of commercial diets are, particularly of the
supermarket variety, are often formulated in a form to appeal to us rather
than to our pets -- like any marketing program.

Jane Hansen – Yes, meat and three veg.

Dr Paul Hanson – Exactly.

Jane Hansen – So you would agree that there’s some marketing trickery.

Dr Paul Hanson – Like any commercial product that’s designed to appeal to
a consumer, there is an element of that.

An element of ‘marketing trickery’ appears to be acceptable to Dr Hanson
who endorsed the commercial offerings with the words: ‘If it’s an
appropriate product, there’s no reason not to use it.’

Acceptance of ‘trickery’ and blandishments about ‘appropriate products’
seems an inappropriate stance for the Australian Veterinary Association.
But when seen in the context of the pet food industry declining to speak
in its own defence, the performance of the AVA seems even more
problematic.

Rather than appear on the program, pet food company Uncle Bens of
Australia (a division of Mars, Inc.) sent a statement. Here’s a transcript
of the sound track as Jane Hansen, the reporter, reads to the camera:

Jane Hansen – The multi-national Mars Corporation and its Australian
subsidiary, Uncle Bens’, has 65% of the local pet food market, but they
didn’t wish to discuss Tom Lonsdale’s theories. They sent us this
statement and it says, ‘there’s absolutely no scientific or other basis
for the claims’.

We also received a fax from the Pet Food Industry Association of Australia
and they say: ‘The raw food versus processed pet food debate has caused
unnecessary alarm amongst pet owners, and on that basis alone, it is the
debate that we no longer wish to take part in’.

Jane Hansen made no comment about the pet food industry’s reluctance to
answer straight forward questions – their failure to appear spoke volumes.
The Mars’ statement that ‘there’s absolutely no scientific or other basis
for the [health risk] claims’ beggars belief.

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In RMB Newsletter 1:3 we reviewed two radio interviews featuring Dr Duncan
Hall, External Affairs Manager, of the Mars Company, Uncle Ben’s of
Australia.

Here are a couple of readers’ comments.

Tom,

The interviews are all very well, but no-one actually ever puts these dog
food manufacturers on the spot, if you want my opinion. . . nor do their
answers ever tell you much. . . it is what they DON'T say & list in their
ingredients etc which is the important stuff. When I first investigated
changing to BARF I rang a couple of major dog food companies & asked
questions they didn't want to answer!!

I kept hammering away until I got answers then asked more questions when
they replied. they were NOT impressed I can tell you...they tried to put
me off with long version names of BHT BHA ETHOXYQUIN etc etc. . .but I
knew what they were talking about & said oh yeah was waiting for the
ethoxyquin one. . .their response oh but it is all safe levels. . . my
next question. . .What is the safe level per 100gms of your product?

After all ethox. is a rubber stabilizer how can it be safe in the food
chain at any level?

What do you consider a safe level/per 100gms of your product??? they could
NOT tell ME!!!!

So how the hell do they know it is within safe levels???. . .Who
determined what level of any of these things is safe??? The pet food
companies scientists??? What TOTALLY INDEPENDENT studies have been done?
By whom? When? How do the public access the information?

THEY CAN'T OR WON'T ANSWER THOSE SORTS OF QUESTIONS WILL THEY?

The response when they first answered the call & I asked can you please
tell me what is in your products was also enlightening..their response
immediately was: Why?

Me: Because I want to know exactly what i am feeding my animals.
Who am I speaking to?
Me: That doesn't matter . . .
What is wrong with your dog?
Me: Nothing! (followed a long list/q of complaints my dog may have
had . . .
Me: No nothing!
Then why are you asking . . . ?
Me: Because like I said I want to know!
Which one of our products are you using. . .?
Me: Various ones . . .
What's the problem. . .?
Me: Haven't got one as such just want to know what is in it!
You wouldn't understand if we told you . . .
Me: TRY ME!

Then I got the long version of BHT BHA ETC

Me: Where do you source your protein? etc etc...no satisfactory
answers to any of it.

They tried their best to fob me off but I wouldn't go away until they
answered my questions . . .had them running in circles & putting me from
person to person & finally there is no-one avail to answer that. re
the 'safe'level of ethox./100grms of their product!!!! How convenient for
them!!!!!! I went to BARF immediately with 4 dogs, aged 18mths to 14yrs &
litter of pups due...donated 40 kgs of dry food to animal welfare.
I would never go back to commercial food. There has been no commercial dog
products of any kind in this house since . . . 7yrs ago now. . .

BARF is easy, cheap, effective,..dogs hardly ever go to vet these
days...in fact my vet thought I had changed vets he hadn't seen me for so
long. . .

IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO FEED YOURSELF & YOUR KIDS A
NUTRITIONALLY SOUND DIET YOU CAN DO THE SAME FOR YOUR DOG/CAT.

YOU DON'T NEED A SCIENTIST TO DO IT FOR YOU. NOR DO YOU NEED A DEGREE IN
ANIMAL SCIENCE, BIOLOGY, OR VETERINARY SCIENCE TO FIGURE IT OUT!

THAT IS DOG FOOD MANUFACTURER SPEAK FOR WE ARE CLEVERER THAN YOU! WE WILL
BRAIN WASH YOU INTO BELIEVING YOU CAN'T DO WHAT WE CAN! BULLDUST!

I DON'T NEED A DR OR NUTRITIONIST TO PLAN MY FAMILY'S MEALS SO WHY DO I
NEED ONE TO FEED THE ANIMALS SENSIBLY? . . .

(Name and address supplied.)

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My main comment is on why pet owners feed commercial food and I doubt that
most even give it any thought - they are shown on television and on
posters in the shops that dogs and cats live healthy active lives being
fed out of bags and tins, so that is what they do. When their pets get
skin problems, joint problems, teeth problems, etc. it doesn't occur to
them that the diet is the cause, any more than they link their own
processed food diet with their own health problems. Their vet is not
going to tell them that the reason they are living in his surgery is
because of what they are feeding their pet. He can make lots of money
selling them special diets instead.

I find it interesting that Pedigree Pet Foods have this year actually come
out and said that dogs are carnivores. And this is after years of feeding
dogs soya, peanut hulls, grains, etc. If pet food companies were
interested in what was best for dogs and cats to eat, they would not need
to carry out laboratory research but just look at what wild carnivores
eat. What they are really doing is finding ways they can use up the
garbage from other processes they would otherwise have to find ways of
chucking away. As it is, instead of having to pay for disposal, they
charge pet owners for it. Since they said at the start that their foods
were complete and all that a dog or cat would need, how come they keep
changing them?

(Name and address supplied.)
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Stop press 23 January 2002

The Post Graduate Foundation in Veterinary Science at the University of
Sydney is a leading source of postgraduate education for veterinarians. Dr
Michele Cotton, Associate Director of the Foundation has reviewed the book
Raw Meaty Bones: http://www.pgf.edu.au/dc/dc223_d.cfm

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